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Seeing performances like Trump's follow up speech after his conviction suggest that he's the person for whom the debates are a serious risk. 

Biden will stutter at times and probably mix up a name or two. But there's a good chance Trump will spend a great deal of the debates on incoherent tangents, sounding like someone's drunk crazy uncle. 

Still won't cost him the base. But there have to be a few undecideds who hadn't been paying attention to Trump and will be finding out for the first time how addled he sounds. 

terp said:

Who gets to decide what is BS?

So you don't think threatening harm to the families of judicial workers is an unusual and unkind means of getting one's way?  Try to think about this for a while before responding or defending people I'm not even mentioning specifically. 

terp said:

I still think we should strive to maximize liberty.  I think its more how you get there that's changed.  My instinct is to be nice and do everything peacefully.  I do not think that is tenable.  Look how the entrenched institutions attack someone they can't control.  He didn't even detail anything in any real way, but he said a lot of things they did not like.  

So, I think you need to get control and tear down these institutions.   It sill probably take force or at least the threat of force to get this right.  This means the long march to the left this country has been on has to reverse.  We need a hard right movement to dismantle many of these entrenched powers that have been infringing more and more on our freedoms.  

I think that is in the cards anyway.  There was a time that scared me.  Now I think its a necessary evil.

Chilling response

Force is not the answer.

Given that you consider this a viable option, I will not be engaging with you from this point on.

Similarly, I thought of this thread when I saw this.

Just got QB. No crazy words.

I'm in good company...early QB for me too  :bz

GoSlugs said:

Hopefully that will change some votes.

As for me, I am definitely voting against Trump (as opposed to for Biden).  Biden's actions have killed thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians.  I could never think of  him as anything but the lesser of two very evil Evils. His murderous policy is a stain that will never be erased.

So you're saying that without America's support, Netanyahu wouldn't have killed all of those Palestinians?

ridiculous. and so wrong.

don't get me wrong - I think our attitude towards Bibi should be far harsher. But to blame Biden for something he has zero control over is just dumb.

dave said:

Surprised by Qantas being there.

Big scandal over the last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/04/business/qantas-ceo-canceled-flights-airline-scandal/index.html

nan said:

It was a good name and I said that.  

You are practicing character assassinations here instead of providing actual examples.  Naeim's background is important because she has a brother who until yesterday was working in the Ukraine government.  That raises a red flag, in addition to what she is saying which ignores much history, facts and genuine issues.  

I had two major issues with the article.  I have not seen you debate either.  Instead you are doing what you did with the last article you posted which was so bad even you could not defend it.  

we often point out where your sources state things that are clearly incorrect, or where they are outright lying and clearly trying to deceive.

For some reason, those things don't seem to raise any red flags with you.